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Hankscorpiouk
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Hmmm... http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1027906-so-if-12-is-going-to-convert-existing-maps/



EDIT: Now would be a GREAT time for that jar file changing tutorial and/or batch file I requested a while back....I really don't have any time to do it myself.

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February 29, 2012 at 6:52 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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I will try to make that, and what will stay in the game?

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February 29, 2012 at 8:54 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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swordmaker2 at February 29, 2012 at 8:54 PM

I will try to make that, and what will stay in the game?

Supposedly 1.2 automatically converts the old maps, but as you can see people don't trust it.  I guess we could try and see what happens, after making sure it's properly backed-up first.  If people quickly start seeing lots of horrible problems then we could start new map.



The key thing though is that we'll probably still be running 1.1 and the current map a few days a week, hence the need for a jar-file changing tutorial and ideally a batch file to automate the process for the lazier members.  I want the current map to have at least a few more months of life left in it.  I'm tired of having to lose old stuff and I think a few of us are.



If there was an easy way to transfer the spawns though I guess we could try that, but is there?  In the cuboid days it would have been possible, not sure about how....

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March 1, 2012 at 4:27 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Hankscorpiouk
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Also if we do try moving the MAIN things across, the builders of them (Teals, Vashal, Elite, Mong mainly) will need to point-out where on new map we should put them.

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March 1, 2012 at 4:29 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Hankscorpiouk
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Any preference for what days we do 1.1 on?  Obviously doing 1.2 the rest of the time.

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March 1, 2012 at 10:23 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Personally I think most days should be 1.2 (and therefore non-Bukkit) and those days should include the weekend, as generally more people will have free-time then, so new people will be more likely to stumble upon the server.  I'm thinking perhaps just between 1 and 3 days a week could be for 1.1 / Bukkit.  Then when new people arrive in the 1.2 server we can tell them, "oh we also have 1.1 and plugins available on these days....".  This is obviously until Bukkit makes the transition to 1.2 but who knows when that will be, probably no less than some weeks.

 

 I want brand new people to come here without having to jump through hoops to play, and I want us to be able to enjoy the brand new stuff 1.2 has to offer,  HOWEVER, I don't want to take away plugins and the advantage your ranks have earned you, so think the above is a decent compromise.  What does everyone think?  Room for improvement?  Thanks.

 

 PS let's make sure everyone sees / contributes to this.


EDIT:

A while back Vashal was saying Wednesday is generally the least busy day of the week for server (we seriously need some analytical tools complete with nice graphs methinks lol) - I don't know how true that is, but I was thinking, maybe Weds, Thurs and Fri could be for 1.1 and Bukkit.....and rest for Vanilla 1.2?  This means 1.1 for today and tomorrow unless we start early this week (I guess we could change it from week to week).


 

EDIT 2:

As an alternative to jar-file changing I suggest you use SpoutCraft or possibly MagicLauncher to get into server when we're running 1.1 and just letting your ordinary Minecraft clients auto-update for 1.2

I know this is all a tad verbose and situation is kinda cumbersome, but that's just how this game works, isn't it?  Stuff gets updated and life becomes harder lol.  And I can't afford 2 dedi-servers.  All servers will be having this issue right now.



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March 1, 2012 at 10:38 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Hankscorpiouk
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Bump.

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March 1, 2012 at 10:53 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Hankscorpiouk
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PS http://forums.spout.org/threads/spout-the-same-chapter.1495/


and


http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/bukkit-the-next-chapter.62489/


I think the first link offers a better explanation of the situation, but both are worth reading.  Just to show IT IS NOT ME.  DON'T BLAME ME.  I WILL TRY MY BEST THOUGH.

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March 1, 2012 at 11:22 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Elite6809
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However, bukkit has been updated to 1.2. ;)

http://dl.bukkit.org/downloads/craftbukkit/view/00799_1.2.2-R0.1/

I'll start work on a jar-switching tutorial right after I've copied some German vocabulary into my book.

March 1, 2012 at 11:29 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Hankscorpiouk
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Did you read the other posts?  I'm thinking now ppl should just use SpoutCraft or MagicLauncher when we're running 1.1 and use the updated vanilla server when they want 1.2.2


Beats jar-changing.



It looks like I might be the only person having to worry about jars, server-side I mean....and depending on day of week :P

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March 1, 2012 at 11:45 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Hankscorpiouk
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Did you read the other posts?  I'm thinking now ppl should just use SpoutCraft or MagicLauncher when we're running 1.1 and use the updated vanilla server when they want 1.2.2


Beats jar-changing.



It looks like I might be the only person having to worry about jars, server-side I mean....and depending on day of week :P

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March 1, 2012 at 11:46 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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I am fine with what ever you guys think. Switching client however could get annoying

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March 1, 2012 at 12:33 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Hankscorpiouk
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Fabregas485 at March 1, 2012 at 12:33 PM

I am fine with what ever you guys think. Switching client however could get annoying

Surely not as annoying as switching jars?


I guess another possibility could be a .bat/batch file or program that does the switching for people....I'm not going to be writing that though.

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March 1, 2012 at 12:36 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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I've recorded some AVI files for the video however I don't have any video editing software to edit it with. Movie Maker doesn't work for me so I'm kind of stuck.

AVIs

March 1, 2012 at 12:38 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Fabregas485
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Well I did not read the lost few post properly. But yeah switching between the spout and the updated client would work. Talking of the update, anyone else having trouble logging in?

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March 1, 2012 at 12:45 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Can you allow me to save my spawn as a WE file if we change map. I don't want to lose my most recent work - it took longer than it looks! Those side parts with pixelart are complicated :L

What is coming with 1.2 that I should know about? Other than jungles... :D

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March 1, 2012 at 12:59 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Fabregas485 at March 1, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Well I did not read the lost few post properly. But yeah switching between the spout and the updated client would work. Talking of the update, anyone else having trouble logging in?

Yup, that's because the servers on the Bukkit 1.1 jar ATM.

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March 1, 2012 at 1:28 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Mongfish at March 1, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Can you allow me to save my spawn as a WE file if we change map. I don't want to lose my most recent work - it took longer than it looks! Those side parts with pixelart are complicated :L

What is coming with 1.2 that I should know about? Other than jungles... :D

Yup, what do I need to do?


Apparently villagers now have children lol, and zombies can open doors or something (???) not sure what else....but there is a bunch of stuff I know that much.


EDIT: just taken look through WE and WG folders but don't see anything.  Would you need to issue a new command in-game or something?

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March 1, 2012 at 1:31 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Elite6809 at March 1, 2012 at 12:38 PM

I've recorded some AVI files for the video however I don't have any video editing software to edit it with. Movie Maker doesn't work for me so I'm kind of stuck.

AVIs

Downloaded them, and I could edit with Windows Movie Maker.  Why doesn't yours seem to be working?

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bukkit joined mojang? finally, good news.

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